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General Category => General No To Mob Discussion => Topic started by: The Bald Eagle on 12 August, 2011, 05:36:47 PM
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Please note that the date of this has changed. It was originally announced as being on Wednesday the 14th, but for reasons only known to Richmond BC it has been changed to a day earlier.
All of those who have already carved this into their diaries should please take note and change accordingly.
Please remember we want to make this a big one and need to pack the public gallery with green vests. It may well be that we will see councillors conspiring to commit theft, and I would hate for you to miss out on being able to say "I was there that night".
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This could be the reason why Richmond want to keep the illegal fines to pay for this shambles. :bashy: :bashy: :bashy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14567874 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14567874)
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This could be the reason why Richmond want to keep the illegal fines to pay for this shambles. :bashy: :bashy: :bashy:
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14567874[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14567874[/url])
That is reprehensible. The Premier Inn? Lenny Henry's favourite hang out! What were they thinking of? What's wrong with putting them up in a two bedroom flat so that his support worker could stay as well to pander to him do his cooking and his washing etc.
Here is a cheap one in Richmond it is only £6279 a month !! That's a bargain.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-31189087.html/svr/1702;jsessionid=D4F13B21FE11047F063E4527C259E985 (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-31189087.html/svr/1702;jsessionid=D4F13B21FE11047F063E4527C259E985)
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This is a bump to remind everyone that this meeting is next Tuesday.
Several groups, including the No To Mob, have been working hard behind the scenes to put pressure on Richmond council to proactively repay their ill gotten gains. You may recall that some of us went to the Cabinet meeting on 21st July where we were largely fobbed off and ignored. The deal was done long before we got to have our say.
The forthcoming meeting is a meeting of the whole council where the proposals put forward by the Cabinet will be recommended to the full council, and they will be able to vote on the logistics of how the illegally obtained monies might be returned to its rightful owners, i.e. those wrongly fined by using uncertificated cameras on the $cars.
At present the Cabinet are recommending that they put a series of adverts in local newspapers to allow any of their unwitting victims to appeal any ticket given by a $camera car from 31st March 2009 onwards.
We are saying that there is no reason why the advertising cannot be targeted at the person who received the ticket, and that this would be a far more cost effective and efficient way of achieving Lord True's objective when he stated “The more of this money is repaid the happier I will be”
I would like nothing more than to see Lord True be the happy man he aspires to be ;D. If you would like to see him happy too, perhaps you would like to attend what promises to be a quite lively debate at Richmond BC's offices next week.
Oh, and by the way I have asked Lord True for permission to film at the meeting, or to give his reasons why we should not be allowed to in light of Bob Neill's letter (http://www.parliament.uk/deposits/depositedpapers/2011/DEP2011-0549.pdf (http://www.parliament.uk/deposits/depositedpapers/2011/DEP2011-0549.pdf)) to him and every other council leader. I will be interested to see Lord True's response. :)
I will post meeting details etc. shortly.
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Ok people unfortunately I have been booked on a job in Scotland for this date and will be unable to attend ::)))
So as my girth will not be present could 2 or 3 people take my place please. :idea:
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What is the difference between Richmond taking money that is not theirs and this man?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033884/Tesco-worker-jailed-blundering-supermarket-hands-100-000-shares-meant-executive-namesake.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033884/Tesco-worker-jailed-blundering-supermarket-hands-100-000-shares-meant-executive-namesake.html)
So it would seem taking £Ms is OK, and taking £100,000 is a jail term???
Both were a result of a mistake, both took money that was not legally theirs.
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What is the difference between Richmond taking money that is not theirs and this man?
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033884/Tesco-worker-jailed-blundering-supermarket-hands-100-000-shares-meant-executive-namesake.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033884/Tesco-worker-jailed-blundering-supermarket-hands-100-000-shares-meant-executive-namesake.html[/url])
So it would seem taking £Ms is OK, and taking £100,000 is a jail term???
Both were a result of a mistake, both took money that was not legally theirs.
There is absolutely no difference it is THEFT pure and simple. If Richmond use any of the money that is not refunded as they propose it is THEFT. If any of the Councillors pass the recommendations that is conspiracy to commit THEFT.
This is why we need a large Mob presence at the meeting. Anyone who comes will possibly be witnessing a large conspiracy by Councillors to commit THEFT! Please go out of your way to attend. It needs something really dramatic to upset the complacency of the Cabinet (maybe when the Metropolitan Police start enquiries they will get a dose of reality).
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If any one could kindly give me a lift Il be there
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Here is a copy of The Agenda item for the Full Council Meeting. The 'Criminal conspiracy' by Councillors who vote for this looks to be on the cards.
The expressed intention to 'invest' 'unclaimed funds' that do not belong to The Council is a 'conspiracy to commit theft.'
These funds will be left over in large proportions because of the intention to place press adverts. asking people to apply for refunds.
In another case where this was done only 5% of the total possible refund money was actually refunded.
If this is replicated in Richmond it would mean that out of a total of £1.05M only £52,500 will be refunded leaving £997,500 that belongs to motorists retained unlawfully by The Council. There is no intention to even donate this money to charity.
This gives no incentive for any council to conduct enforcement lawfully.
Council –13 September 2011
REPORTS OF THE EXECUTIVE AND COMMITTEES
The Council is asked to receive and adopt the report of the Cabinet.
CABINET – 21 July 2011 MATTERS REPORTED FOR DECISION 21 JULY 2011
1. ISSUES WITH LBRUT CAMERA CARS - UPDATE -
(report of the Cabinet Member for Highways and Streetscene attached)
At its meeting on 21 July 2011, the Cabinet considered a report describing
serious problems with the requirements for certification of camera cars that
had been operated for the Council since April 2009 and making
recommendations for the way forward.
Recommended:
It was RESOLVED that Cabinet recommend to Council:
1. That the penalty charges incurred by the Penalty Charge
Notices (PCNs) issued by the uncertified camera cars be repaid
to those who properly appeal to the Council.
2. That this be handled by a Traffic Management Act 2004 based
appeal process creating an appeal period until the end of the
calendar year 2011.
3. That the date for the start of the appeal period be determined
by the date advertisements for this action can be placed in the
press and that these be placed as soon after the Council meeting
as practicably possible.
4. That unclaimed funds be invested into parking, highway and
footpath related improvements as an addition to original spend
projections and as part of the 2012/13 budget review process.
5. That the detail of this process of payback be delegated to the
Director of Environment in liaison with Cabinet Member for Street
Scene and Highways.
Lord True, Chairman
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Is any one albe to give me a lift to this?
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I will see what can be arranged Martin. I can't promise anything M8.
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thanks nigel
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@Martin, I think Tom Tomster, maybe going, why don't you try and call him, he may be able to help :D
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I don't have his number i did have but lost it W:T:F:
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This is a polite reminder that something big may be happening at the Richmond council meeting tomorrow evening. Nigel and other wronged motorists need our help and I would ask that as many Mob members try to make it along as possible.
Councillors need to debate this question and not just rubber stamp it, as happened when we attended the cabinet meeting in July. The more of us who are there, the more they will see the strength of feeling against the course of action they are proposing.
Stay cool 8)
Bald Eagle
P.s. @ Martin - someone will be in touch shortly and we will get you there with a bit of luck. ;)
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i have a lift BE thank you very much and thank to nigel mg and tom tom for the lift see u all tommorow :party: :dancing: :party: :dancing: :party: :dancing:
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In case anyone wants to come along, the meeting starts at 7.00pm and will take place at:
York House
Sion Court,
Sion Road,
Twickenham,
Middlesex
TW1 3DD
It is a public meeting and all members of the public have the right to attend. I have also been told by Lord True that he has arranged for the meeting to be recorded for webcasting at a later date. This was after I lobbied him for permission to film the meeting myself. ;) ;D
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Can't get to this one I'm afraid, have to be somewhere at 18:30 that I can't get out of ::)))
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Il be there ;D
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Can't get to this one I'm afraid, have to be somewhere at 18:30 that I can't get out of ::)))
We all do whatever we can mate. It's one of our creeds.
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Can't get to this one I'm afraid, have to be somewhere at 18:30 that I can't get out of ::)))
We all do whatever we can mate. It's one of our creeds.
Yeah I know, just a bleedin nuisance as I wanted to go, would have been ok if they'd stuck to the original date, oh well....next time
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Can't get to this one I'm afraid, have to be somewhere at 18:30 that I can't get out of ::)))
We all do whatever we can mate. It's one of our creeds.
Yeah I know, just a bleedin nuisance as I wanted to go, would have been ok if they'd stuck to the original date, oh well....next time
Your - how best can I put this to the King of Kebabs? - HUGE presence will undoubtedly be missed KS. ;D
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:pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl:
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Your - how best can I put this to the King of Kebabs? - HUGE presence will undoubtedly be missed KS.
Yeah what a Bloater!
Last time I saw him he was trying to get a Swan in between two bits of bread :pmsl:
I am stuck in sunny Glasgee ::))) so I can't be there. :bashy: :bashy: :bashy:
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Last time I saw him he was trying to get a Swan in between two bits of bread :pmsl:
KS's cackling at the beginning is a sign of what he was plotting for later.
It was horrible!!!!
That man will put anything on a skewer. :o :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m98FcmSVU&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m98FcmSVU&feature=player_embedded)
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And because of my links to our royal family, I'm even allowed to kill a few, for food only mind, I wouldn't get any pleasure out of it.....oohhh swan garnished with honey and lucozade...Mmmm.....lovely
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And because of my links to our royal family, I'm even allowed to kill a few, for food only mind, I wouldn't get any pleasure out of it.....oohhh swan garnished with honey and lucozade...Mmmm.....lovely
KING of Kebabs. :pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl:
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See you all there!
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Just had a Tweet to say Richmond are writing to drivers to offer refunds. £1m+ due to be paid back! Will we be seeing a few new vacancies in the parking dept?
:party: :party: :party:
WCC et al be very afraid!!
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Just had a Tweet to say Richmond are writing to drivers to offer refunds. £1m+ due to be paid back! Will we be seeing a few new vacancies in the parking dept?
:party: :party: :party:
WCC et al be very afraid!!
Excellent news :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:
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Terrific news and the only lawful route that can be taken. :party: :party: :party:
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All Local Authorities take note.
WE ARE WATCHING YOU!
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Fantastic news, well done all, especially Nigel on this one.
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This is a momentous decision that will have massive repercussions for councils all over the country.
We all deserve great credit for all the hard work we've put in, particularly our Nigel who started the whole Richmond thing. :aplude: :aplude: :aplude:
WE'VE GOT A NIGEL! :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:
Richmond's Conservative councillors and four of the Lib Dem councillors deserve huge credit too. They did it because, and I quote, "It's the right thing to do". Turns out Lord True is truly an honourable man.
Now. Who's next?
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Fantastic work!
A brilliant result for the motorist, the taxpayer, for justice and of course for the NoToMob itself.
I imagine there are some nervous top brass from other councils tonight.
Perhaps they might heed their own mantra - if they've nothing to hide (i.e. if they're not trying to fleece the public out of their hard earned) then they have nothing to fear.
If I were them, I'd be scared s**tless!
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