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Title: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Esinem on 24 January, 2011, 02:51:32 AM
I'm confused after hearing various rumours. Are they increasing the fleet:

a) To a total of 10?
b) To a total of 11?
c) To a total of 17?
d) By 100% every six months until there is no road-space left for any other type of traffic?
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: peperami gsxr on 24 January, 2011, 08:02:11 AM
Yeah we got told of the increase on Friday night by the driver. The drivers have said things in the past thats a load of crap, so i never gave it a second thought, i just cant see with all the cuts to front line services, and the staff they are saying goodbye to; redundancy for 200 due on the 30th of March 2011, how could they think they could get away with it.

I think its a little chinese whispers that started within O St, or just the driver having a laugh...he did say we'd never be able to find them all with a grin on his face. But as we keep seein since they got the new scars, there aint enough honey pots for them to feed, they are private, and feeding should be done alone  :rotfl:

@Esinem, how did you hear of this, did you get told Saturday from one of the secret late  night schunters from friday night.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Kill Switch on 24 January, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
Yeah, it was me who mentioned it
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 24 January, 2011, 12:36:39 PM
Last I heard there were going to be 11,267 of them, which would mean one for every junction in Westminster.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: peperami gsxr on 24 January, 2011, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: "The Bald Eagle"
Last I heard there were going to be 11,267 of them, which would mean one for every junction in Westminster.

that sort of take's the hunt out if schunt  :rotfl:
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Pat Pending on 24 January, 2011, 11:17:38 PM
Nah I heard 250,000 of them one for every road in london
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Bandit on 25 January, 2011, 08:20:59 PM
Not if the cap on immigration from outside the EU comes into force... ;)
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: rs2k on 25 January, 2011, 08:21:42 PM
Quote from: "Bandit"
Not if the cap on immigration from outside the EU comes into force... ;)

PMSL !   that did make me chuckle !
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Bennage on 27 January, 2011, 01:56:01 AM
The tweet today said there's now a Scam Van!
More info, PLEASE!!   I NEED MY FIX!!
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Bomber on 27 January, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
A Vauxhall combo, similar kit and livery to the other APNR cars.  So that makes 8 vehicles to date by my reckoning.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 27 January, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
I will put some pics up shortly
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Anonymous on 27 January, 2011, 01:51:30 PM
Photos as requested

                                                                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
                                             
(http://http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5392968534_26d5560fd9_z.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392968534/)
Westminster Council CCTV ANPR van (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392968534/#) by schunters (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/notomob/), on Flickr



(http://http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/5392370525_a7111c1794_z.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392370525/)
Westminster Council CCTV ANPR van (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392370525/#) by schunters (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/notomob/), on Flickr




(http://http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5392369949_4d9f465c3c_z.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392369949/)
Westminster Council CCTV ANPR van (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392369949/#) by schunters (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/notomob/), on Flickr




(http://http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5296/5392966946_d1497b5df5_z.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392966946/)
Westminster Council CCTV ANPR van (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/notomob/5392966946/#) by schunters (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/notomob/), on Flickr
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Bomber on 27 January, 2011, 02:10:10 PM
Note the lack of parking tickets on the windscreen?  The car is illegally parked (parking restriction in force and no exemption card displayed, just like a couple of the other APNR cars.  Besides, even if it did have exemption for 'statutory' purposes, how is parking up at the depot, fetching a pizza or taking a slash, fullfilling a statutory role?
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: BailiffHunter on 27 January, 2011, 04:10:23 PM
So the simple question is....why a van W:T:F:? There must be a reason :idea: Not sure though :idea:
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: TT on 27 January, 2011, 04:46:38 PM
and they've left the wrapper on the floor :P

One also has to wonder whether they ordered these BS (ie b4 $CHUNTING) and if they're wishing they hadn't now  ::)))
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: rs2k on 27 January, 2011, 04:47:27 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
So the simple question is....why a van W:T:F:? There must be a reason :idea: Not sure though :idea:

Are they allowed to clamp ?  only reason I can think of them needing a van ??
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: BailiffHunter on 27 January, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
No. WCC stopped clamping in 2008. This merely adds to the confusion as to the order of a van ANPR :idea:
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: rs2k on 27 January, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
No. WCC stopped clamping in 2008. This merely adds to the confusion as to the order of a van ANPR :idea:

Maybe they are going to start again :s  would tie in with the need for ANPR ?
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: BailiffHunter on 27 January, 2011, 04:59:02 PM
I believe the only clamping that may take place again is for persistent  evaders ie those with 3 or more PCNs. This has not yet been confirmed though. This said,with ANPR tech, it is quite possible for the van to be uploaded with a simple data base of these "PE`s" details. If this is the way forward, we need to find out asap.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: rs2k on 27 January, 2011, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
I believe the only clamping that may take place again is for persistent  evaders ie those with 3 or more PCNs. This has not yet been confirmed though. This said,with ANPR tech, it is quite possible for the van to be uploaded with a simple data base of these "PE`s" details. If this is the way forward, we need to find out asap.

Seems to all point that direction :(  but would they not require a SIA specific license to clamp ?
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: BailiffHunter on 27 January, 2011, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: "rs2k"
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
I believe the only clamping that may take place again is for persistent  evaders ie those with 3 or more PCNs. This has not yet been confirmed though. This said,with ANPR tech, it is quite possible for the van to be uploaded with a simple data base of these "PE`s" details. If this is the way forward, we need to find out asap.



Seems to all point that direction :(  but would they not require a SIA specific license to clamp ?

I believe as a LA, they can apply for a generic SIA licence to cover all staff.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 27 January, 2011, 05:09:24 PM
I've been told they're diesel. A lot cheaper to run and keep the occupants warm than IQ's. Will have to look into the clamping angle though. Maybe this is something we can ask Cllr. Rowley?
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: BailiffHunter on 27 January, 2011, 05:13:03 PM
I think they would have costed the fuel type into the original business plan for the IQ`s. I smell something more than merely keeping NSL staff warm as NSL don`t give a Fu** about their staff!
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: chalky on 27 January, 2011, 05:27:35 PM
Maybe the van is quicker off the mark to lose the $chunters? :-
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: BailiffHunter on 27 January, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: "chalky"
Maybe the van is quicker off the mark to lose the $chunters? :-

Nope. I smell more below the belt methods are a coming!!!
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: spikes on 27 January, 2011, 06:46:34 PM
Westminster Council did stop wheel clamping, although during that time you may have seen one or two cars and bikes on your travels with a wheel clamp. But these had the letters 'Phillips' on them and lots of reading material glued to the shiny parts of the vehicle.

But in Dec 2010 Westminster announced they were bringing back wheel clamping for repeat offenders and slow moving old age pensioners as it was agreed during a recent policy and scrutiny committee meeting that the rich, wealthy and gullible will be expecting to see only good looking young people partaking in the special Olympic 2012 re-enactment of Bay Watch at Horse-guards and nothing must offend or distract them from Westminster Council reliving them of their cash.

Westminster Council to reintroduce wheel clamping (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0wHZwUqlo#ws)
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: DastardlyDick on 27 January, 2011, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
I think they would have costed the fuel type into the original business plan for the IQ`s. I smell something more than merely keeping NSL staff warm as NSL don`t give a Fu** about their staff!
I can't quite see the logic of the van, as it will cost NSL/WCC £10 per day in Congestion Charge, which the iQ's don't (they're exempt as they're both Euro 5 compatible and emit less than 99g/km in CO2 which is TfL's new standard) assuming it's diesel, it'll cost about the same in fuel.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Pat Pending on 27 January, 2011, 09:43:31 PM
Well I suppose the van will be permanently parked up around Grosvenor Square then will it?
As the American Embassy staff  and Diplomats owe millions in Con Charge.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: rs2k on 27 January, 2011, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: "Pat Pending"
Well I suppose the van will be permanently parked up around Grosvenor Square then will it?
As the American Embassy staff  and Diplomats owe millions in Con Charge.

I can just imagine the head line now.... !

" Westminster City Council employee held at gunpoint by US Embassy Soldiers for tampering with Diplomatic vehicle" 

PMSL
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Pat Pending on 27 January, 2011, 09:48:25 PM
It would be even better if the vehicle was destroyed in a controlled explosion.

Edit ............ Oooops I bet this forum just pinged a few alarm bells with that last line. Probably got MI5 MI6 looking all over it as we speak  W:T:F:
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Web Admin on 27 January, 2011, 10:14:52 PM
Nah Pat, I think you saved yourself by saying 'controlled' still i suspect you will get a letter from PLarge in a couple of minutes threatening to sue you, this forum, the whole internet and God, it is a tradition after all.  :pmsl:
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: beep on 28 January, 2011, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
So the simple question is....why a van W:T:F:? There must be a reason :idea: Not sure though :idea:

Maybe pictures of the van will be now rolled out on all their press releases' to show how "Visable" the $camera cars are...

Hello BTW  ;D
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: Pat Pending on 28 January, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
Welcome aboard Beep.
Title: Re: SCAMera car fleet increase?
Post by: DastardlyDick on 28 January, 2011, 09:04:12 PM
Quote from: "Pat Pending"
Well I suppose the van will be permanently parked up around Grosvenor Square then will it?
As the American Embassy staff  and Diplomats owe millions in Con Charge.

Except of course the yanks claim that the ConCharge is a Tax and they, as Diplomats, are exempt from all UK Taxes (the same also applies to UK Diplomats based in the US). Unfortunatly, other Embassies in London found out about the US stance and are also refusing to pay!
If it was up to me, I'd just withdraw all Police Protection from those Embassies that refused to pay  :-ev-: