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Title: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 07 February, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
Hi all

I found another place today that can do some vests for me that have a light reflective camera logo on them. I can even have them done in all reflective, so the wording also bounces back light.

I propose that the camera logo is on a black background with a white cut out reflective material over the top... so we have the the camera sign left in black with the white reflecting back if you know what I mean...   They may do other colours for the reflective material, need to enquire more as was in rush today.

Price wise, I will get a few diff sizes if I get these up to 3xl  :)   They also are zip fronted, so no problem of the velcro wearing and them coming undone, although suppose zips could wear out : :-

I am told £20 but will work to get price down :)   Price I pay will be price they will be :D  as with any of notomob I think it goes without saying

Any interest ?
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: Monkey Girl on 07 February, 2011, 07:50:51 PM
Hi ya, :D as long as they are heavy duty and machine washable i would pay  UP TO £40 for one, zip sounds great ! cool Rsk2
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 07 February, 2011, 07:56:36 PM
Quote from: "Monkey Girl"
Hi ya, :D as long as they are heavy duty and machine washable i would pay  UP TO £40 for one, zip sounds great ! cool Rsk2

will check out the washable bit :)  cant see it being an issue, and they are pretty heavy quality as well... not thick but not cheap thin either like 99p shop ones LOL  ive torn many of those ! lol
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: BailiffHunter on 07 February, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Lets get a design proof read so we can have a look mate.
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 07 February, 2011, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
Lets get a design proof read so we can have a look mate.

Yea I gotta knock it up and will get a "prototype" made :)   

I know what I want in my head, but getting it on a vest is a bit diff lol !


Was it you BH who had the last ones printed ?   Do you have the design at all if so ?  as I propose same design but with flipped colours to allow for the reflective sign/writing...


Lastly, what would people prefer.... it all in reflective material, as in writing and sign... or just the camera logo in reflective and writing in black ?
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: Monkey Girl on 07 February, 2011, 08:03:41 PM
:D I would like to confirm my order of 2 vest at the moment , please  ;D
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: BailiffHunter on 07 February, 2011, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: "rs2k"
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
Lets get a design proof read so we can have a look mate.

Yea I gotta knock it up and will get a "prototype" made :)  

I know what I want in my head, but getting it on a vest is a bit diff lol !


Was it you BH who had the last ones printed ?   Do you have the design at all if so ?  as I propose same design but with flipped colours to allow for the reflective sign/writing...


Lastly, what would people prefer.... it all in reflective material, as in writing and sign... or just the camera logo in reflective and writing in black ?

Peperami (Si) kindly put me onto his printer who made up the NTM Hi Vis vests. You can email the printer at will@kitroomco.co.uk
He is a good lad and has recently supplied me with a bespoke Knowledge vest. You can also bell him on 01322 31599 as he already has the template designs for us on file. Cost for 2 colour print on Hi Vis is £14. Not sure how much with any changes though and this is for the velcro type vest. That makes future designs a bit cheaper and he posts to you too. I can highly recommend!
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 07 February, 2011, 08:34:46 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
Quote from: "rs2k"
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
Lets get a design proof read so we can have a look mate.

Yea I gotta knock it up and will get a "prototype" made :)   

I know what I want in my head, but getting it on a vest is a bit diff lol !


Was it you BH who had the last ones printed ?   Do you have the design at all if so ?  as I propose same design but with flipped colours to allow for the reflective sign/writing...


Lastly, what would people prefer.... it all in reflective material, as in writing and sign... or just the camera logo in reflective and writing in black ?

Peperami (Si) kindly put me onto his printer who made up the NTM Hi Vis vests. You can email the printer at will@kitroomco.co.uk
He is a good lad and has recently supplied me with a bespoke Knowledge vest. You can also bell him on 01322 31599 as he already has the template designs for us on file. Cost for 2 colour print on Hi Vis is £14. Not sure how much with any changes though and this is for the velcro type vest. That makes future designs a bit cheaper and he posts to you too. I can highly recommend!

Cheers for that bud :) I shall give him a call tomorrow and see if he can facilitate the design I have in mind :D
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 08 February, 2011, 10:38:13 AM
May I propose a change in the current design, which I think is a little bit too busy.

I would like to see

$CAMERA
HUNTER at the top,

the camera logo underneath that

and NO TO MOB at the bottom.

Please don't be afraid to criticise me. This is only a preference and we should all be making this decision
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: peperami gsxr on 08 February, 2011, 11:09:29 AM
RS2K

As you know i sorted out the first batch of Hi Vis vest's. If you wanted to sort out vests no problem, if you wanted to use my printers, again no problem. We have an account, (NTBPT) and the lad i deal with is called Will.

All i will say is if you wanted to go ahead and sort this, i would recommend maybe finding a printer nearer to you, the reason i say this is it maybe best if you was to pop in and see a mock up of the vest. When i sorted it i had many trips to them to see what was going on rather than leave it to a phone call and email ( and yes it still went tits up, but soon got sorted).  Any printer should be able to print on Hi Vis, but avoid screen printing, as they will have a min order, norm about 100, and i think in total I've ordered when asked in total about 15/20, and the min order has been 1.

Price for mine was £14. that was 3 colour design.

BH talks about them posting, if you was to go down that road, and find that you have to contact them every week to place an order the price may go up due to postage.

If you wanted me to sort this out its no problem. there are things that they cant do, hence the design we settled on.

For future orders with any printers i would say rather than go through you, or me or anyone else, if its ok with which ever printer we settle on that we have a link with contact details so people can give them a call and order themselves, rather than the trips from someone to pick up another batch, (not that i minded).

I still have a few vests left over, I would like to shift them if anyone wants a 'Classic Vest'.  

BE's last post is spot on, plan and simple. Word spreads and we dont need loads of text, when drivers see a bike and the rider has a vis with a Camera logo, they know its us!

My Idea would also, if anyone wanted at an extra price of £2 have your name printed on the front in one of the corners.

RS2K, over to you  :dancing:
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: peperami gsxr on 08 February, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: "The Bald Eagle"
May I propose a change in the current design, which I think is a little bit too busy.

I would like to see

$CAMERA
HUNTER at the top,

the camera logo underneath that

and NO TO MOB at the bottom.

Please don't be afraid to criticise me. This is only a preference and we should all be making this decision

Web addy??
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: Nitro159 on 08 February, 2011, 11:27:50 AM
The "notomob" wording, can it have an "@" before it? I.e. To attract people to the twitter account. An extra symbol worth the effort in my opinion.

Also would like to see something on the front like the ntbpt logo or something similar that differentiates us (from the front) as regular hi viz vest wearing motorcyclists (not that we aren't but any attention we receive singles us out as a seperate group of do gooders and anyone getting up close to us will be drawn to read or look at whatever we've put on the front, doesn't have to be anything complicated even just the web address notomob.co.uk or something similar)

Also following up on an old Eagle idea, the writing on his shoulder, mind changing that to "$Camera car's beware"

And furthermore I like the "beware hidden cameras" but its just not visible enough on the current ones (once we're hunched over bikes) but I'd like to have this back, even in a simpler form... I.e. The iconic "CCTV Enforcement". An ironic statement for those in the know and those not in the know will take a closer look
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: peperami gsxr on 08 February, 2011, 11:39:19 AM
@Nitro, wording can be placed on the front, as i said it could be an extra if anyone wants it to be.
The reason why i say extra is due to it being an extra £2. So from my printers anyway it would put the standard price up to £16, at the time i was tryin to keep costs as low as pos.
If you was to think every time the print gets pressed on its an extra £2, so if you wanted print on both sides of the front it would be an extra £4, and if you was to add another colour, again £2. It soon starts adding up.

I would pay, but i know that when i have been asked about price, some have walked away from £14 vests. Depends if they are going to be $CHUNTING every week, or just a 1 off, me thinks.

@rs2k, i'm going to shut up now , but let me know if you want help, or want me to sort out something.
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 08 February, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
Perhaps we can talk about this at MG's in the morning?
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 08 February, 2011, 02:35:23 PM
I welcome everyones input :)

Quote from: "The Bald Eagle"
Perhaps we can talk about this at MG's in the morning?

I am not sure I can get there on my bike ! damn thing wont start today :o !!!  Saying that, did start .. warmed up and cut out, now wont start at all !  going to try it again later. Ive noticed that my choke cable has been a bit stiff lately, so wondering if its stuck a bit ?
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 08 February, 2011, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: "rs2k"
I am not sure I can get there on my bike ! damn thing wont start today :o !!!  Saying that, did start .. warmed up and cut out, now wont start at all !  going to try it again later. Ive noticed that my choke cable has been a bit stiff lately, so wondering if its stuck a bit ?

If you get it started but you're only getting 15 miles to a tank of petrol, it's probably the choke cable. :rotfl:
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: peperami gsxr on 08 February, 2011, 03:02:52 PM
@rs2k....petrol, start with the simple things, and make sure you aint knocking the 'KillSwitch'

worth a spray of WD40 maybe.
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: Nitro159 on 08 February, 2011, 03:57:44 PM
Oh I do agree if it costs too much then people won't buy it, particularly for one off's. I'd be willing to customise my own one if need be, buy the standard issue one from you (as previously described) and anything you wish to have on your own should be your own to dictate (aslong as it's not OTT)

May however borrow...permanently... BE's shoulder patch idea.

Or an eagle (think screaming eagles) and a camera car outline...
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: billie.skeggs on 10 February, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
Seems Many Motorists (espically now Medway who are new to shunting) dont realise what were about.
and it normally takes a second read of our hi Vis / or an explanation of who we are..

so i was thinking of a new HiVis Design.. ideas and suggestions are welcome...

(Btw attached is a draft up done in paint as not got photoshop on this lappy.)

i think the use of the warning triangle is what we need as we look like were advertising we are cctv crews.
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 10 February, 2011, 08:52:00 PM
Got a thread on here already mate about new hi viz design with reflective markings, I am going to change the camera sign a little to make it clear were are not with the camera crew :) 
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: HeadlongCabbie on 10 February, 2011, 08:59:02 PM
I know we're not anti the camera per se, but what about a red cross through the camera...

or a red dollar sign over the top of it?
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: billie.skeggs on 10 February, 2011, 09:01:13 PM
rs2k couldnt find it or woulda posted there.. link the thread in here and ill merge em
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 10 February, 2011, 09:16:02 PM
http://notomob.co.uk/discussions/index.php/topic,287.0.html (http://http://notomob.co.uk/discussions/index.php/topic,287.0.html)

there ya go mate :)
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: billie.skeggs on 10 February, 2011, 09:19:58 PM
THreads Merged
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: BailiffHunter on 12 February, 2011, 08:18:38 PM
Hi all,

After our  meet up this AM, I have been given a rough design for new vests. I have emailed Peper`s printer for some draft designs and it was agreed that we need to keep cost down to a minimum. This is simply due to us as a group not wanting to exclude some existing/new members from being able  to afford a vest. If they come out at £30 for example, nobody (Or very few) will buy them which somewhat defeats the object. Do we all agree???? The design is still 3 colour and the camera sign DOES remain albeit now with a V for Vendetta logo over the top. This way, not even Mr Magoo (Google it kids) will mistake us for Council staff!

There are also some other small changes to wording including website details etc and I have also enquired about bigger sizes (For the larger gent.....or lady) and vests with zips rather than velcro.

Now as has been discussed, once we agree a final proof read, the printer will have the design and if anyone wants to supply their own vest, jacket, leather thong or Gimp mask (Sorry Bruce!) for printing, they can contact the printer direct to see if it`s possible.

Happy everyone?
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 12 February, 2011, 08:22:56 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
Hi all,

After our  meet up this AM, I have been given a rough design for new vests. I have emailed Peper`s printer for some draft designs and it was agreed that we need to keep cost down to a minimum. This is simply due to us as a group not wanting to exclude some existing/new members from being able  to afford a vest. If they come out at £30 for example, nobody (Or very few) will buy them which somewhat defeats the object. Do we all agree???? The design is still 3 colour and the camera sign DOES remain albeit now with a V for Vendetta logo over the top. This way, not even Mr Magoo (Google it kids) will mistake us for Council staff!

There are also some other small changes to wording including website details etc and I have also enquired about bigger sizes (For the larger gent.....or lady) and vests with zips rather than velcro.

Now as has been discussed, once we agree a final proof read, the printer will have the design and if anyone wants to supply their own vest, jacket, leather thong or Gimp mask (Sorry Bruce!) for printing, they can contact the printer direct to see if it`s possible.

Happy everyone?





Can you post this design please ?   couldn't be out today as no brake light ! :(
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: BailiffHunter on 12 February, 2011, 08:25:35 PM
I dont have a design mate. I  merely emailed the printer with my requests in writing and an attachment of a V logo and NoToMob logo. The printer will mock up a design and email it to me next week I trust. I will post it up for  input etc then.
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: rs2k on 12 February, 2011, 08:27:24 PM
Quote from: "BailiffHunter"
I dont have a design mate. I  merely emailed the printer with my requests in writing and an attachment of a V logo and NoToMob logo. The printer will mock up a design and email it to me next week I trust. I will post it up for  input etc then.

Ok cool :)

Is this with the reflective print ? :/
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: BailiffHunter on 12 February, 2011, 08:29:55 PM
No but I will ask. This said, a 3 colour design on a velcro vest is £14 so adding reflective print will be more but as I said, once we have the design agreed if folk wish to pay more for this, it`s up to them.
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: Monkey Girl on 12 February, 2011, 10:04:28 PM
RE HL Cabbie

If theres a cross through the camera sign, ....it may comes across as ANTI. CCTV ..and we dont want that do we? as were helping them with their compliance :)
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: BailiffHunter on 12 February, 2011, 10:06:00 PM
Oh bless...It`s Mg :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: Do you still talk to us City folk now u have ur own chapter :pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl:
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: Monkey Girl on 12 February, 2011, 10:12:07 PM
Hello BH yes just recently got home, really missed all you guys today  ::))) :schucks: i will be posting a report shortly of another really funny day  :P
Title: Re: New batch of NoToMob High Viz vests - proposal
Post by: BailiffHunter on 12 February, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Yes we saw your tweets. I take it the lady $cam didn`t like being filmed. More lippy darling!!!!!!!