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Title: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: 2b1ask1 on 27 January, 2015, 11:29:02 AM
Stumbled upon this earlier!

http://www.raw2k.co.uk/cardetails.asp?ID=129151 (http://www.raw2k.co.uk/cardetails.asp?ID=129151)

Love the half hearted effort to redact the authorities name :D
Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 27 January, 2015, 01:39:39 PM
Oh dear! I honestly hope that there were no injuries to the operators, particularly because when I have $chunted the Islington $cars in the past, the collective attitude of the operators has been the most reasonable I have encountered.

It got me wondering how the Islington $car operators could be more magnanimous than their NSL Ltd counterparts in other boroughs, where we know that the operators are under pressure to hit their ticket quotas, failing which they won't get their overtime.

Then I got a reply to an FoI request I sent to Islington recently where all is revealed. ;D

I asked -


"Dear Islington Borough Council,

Please provide a breakdown of the ten locations that have produced the most Penalty Charge Notices issued by mobile cctv enforcement vehicles in your borough in the months September 2014 to November 2014 inclusive.

Please provide a breakdown of the ten locations that have produced the most Penalty Charge Notices issued by static CCTV cameras during the period September 2014 to November 2014 inclusive.

On each breakdown please break the figures down into the following categories:

(a) By month
(b) Location
(c) Number of PCNs issued for moving traffic contraventions
(d) Number of PCNs issued for parking contraventions

Yours faithfully,

The Bald Eagle"


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This is what I got in reply in relation to the $cars -

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Dear Mr Eagle.

Please find attached a spreadsheet containing the details you requested.

LOCATION   Top ten locations in September
ANNETTE ROAD N7        1
ASHBROOK GROVE N19   1
CALSHOT ROAD N1       51
CRAYFORD ROAD N7     1
EVERSHOT ROAD N4      9
HARGRAVE PARK N19    11
HERCULES STREET N7   14
LEONARD STREET EC1   1
MILDMAY ROAD N1        1
TOLLINGTON / REGINA   15
   
Total                                105

LOCATION   Top ten locations in October
ANNETTE ROAD N7        3
CALSHOT ROAD N1       27
CRAYFORD ROAD N7     3
EVERSHOT ROAD N4      14
HARGRAVE PARK N19    8
HERCULES STREET N7   8
LEONARD STREET EC1   13
MILDMAY ROAD N1        6
LAYCOCK STREET         9
TOLLINGTON / REGINA     4
   
TOTAL                              95

LOCATION   Top ten locations in November
ASHBROOK GROVE N19   2
CALSHOT ROAD N1       29
EVERSHOT ROAD N4      16
HARGRAVE PARK N19    5
HERCULES STREET N7   9
HERMIT STREET            28
LEONARD STREET EC1   2
MILDMAY ROAD N1         2
LAYCOCK STREET         4
TOLLINGTON / REGINA   10

TOTAL                          107

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If ever there was a stat that tells a story, this is it!




Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 27 January, 2015, 02:08:27 PM
As an exercise I thought I would go onto Googlemaps to see where they issue the vast majority of their tickets.

Click on the link below and drop the little man at the junction of Calshot Street and Collier Street. Then look south along Calshot Street. What do you see? ;)

Perhaps Ewan could do one of his famous screen shots? <_>

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.532764,-0.117264,3a,75y,175.03h,81.01t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.532764,-0.117264,3a,75y,175.03h,81.01t/data=)!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZWtCWwbzygd9s7wEKfbjZg!2e0
Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: 2b1ask1 on 27 January, 2015, 04:31:00 PM
So that is an open junction, a continuation of the road with two roads, both lesser with give ways and a pedestrian crossing directly on the junction, at which point the road becomes non-motorised vehicles (at least no cars or motorbikes) entering with only the two roundels to identify it!

No wonder it is a honeypot!

The $camra car is hiding well there isn't it!
Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: Ewan Hoosami on 27 January, 2015, 05:29:12 PM
Here's a linky to the scene of the crime,

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.532591,-0.117235,3a,75y,9.52h,73.12t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6-1oI8yew0lDBCfBXme30w!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.532591,-0.117235,3a,75y,9.52h,73.12t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6-1oI8yew0lDBCfBXme30w!2e0)

If any Islington (or should that be Waslington now that you're short of a money box?) wea$els are looking in, perhaps you could send us some in car footage of your, ahem, road safety skills. We promise not to take the piss. Not much anyway. Okay then, maybe a bit.  :rotfl:   <cash>
Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: Boyo on 27 January, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
Hmm, kerching! <cash> That is a proper honeypot there!  :o
I've had a little look on googlemaps and call me naive but I can see advanced warning signs for no left/right turn, 10 yards or so before the crossroads (ie, southbound on Collier Street, "No Right Turn" and on reciprocal arm above Calshot St, northbound on Collier Street, "No Left Turn") but shouldn't there be a repeat of these actually on the junction with Calshot Street at the point where you turn (or not)?  <_>
Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: The Bald Eagle on 27 January, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
Ahem.

As much as I agree with you guys that this is indeed a honeypot, can I please draw your attention back to the total number of PCNs that Islington council's THREE $cars issue per month, i.e. they average only slightly over 100.

That means that each $car averages slightly over 1 PCN per day.

Bear in mind also that each $car always has two operators in it.

Not that I'm complaining of course, but I don't see it as much of a kerching moment when it is entirely clear from the figures that the $cars are being operated at a massive loss.

Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: 2b1ask1 on 27 January, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
Well the no left turn in Collier St is on a low post and if even a high top transit was parked in the bay beside it you would have no advanced warning whatsoever so surely there is a need for the junction to be signed, possibly even a road painted straight or right arrow?
Title: Re: Poor redaction! A local council (Islington) to mourn the loss of revenue...
Post by: Pat Pending on 27 January, 2015, 11:41:25 PM
Ahem.

As much as I agree with you guys that this is indeed a honeypot, can I please draw your attention back to the total number of PCNs that Islington council's THREE $cars issue per month, i.e. they average only slightly over 100.

That means that each $car averages slightly over 1 PCN per day.

Bear in mind also that each $car always has two operators in it.

Not that I'm complaining of course, but I don't see it as much of a kerching moment when it is entirely clear from the figures that the $cars are being operated at a massive loss.



Provided they are telling the truth BE. It seems a bit sus to me.