The Bitter & Twisted Tour - An Invitation to NoToMob

[Sir Olly Cromwell]

Greetings all,

As you all may or may not know, I'm on the war path when it comes to Bexley council, along with the gents from Bexley-is-Bonkers we've been described as bitter and twisted, simply because we're showing the council up for what it really is; deceitful, undemocratic and corrupt, in many ways. A month or so ago the council changed some of their constitution which denied normal people like you and I (okay I'm not THAT normal) access to the democracy to which we are entitled, and threatened to post addresses of residents who dare question the council at their meetings. As a result all councillors addresses have been published on the web, and as such I'm in the process of arranging a little "do".

Later in the summer I'm going to arrange for a bus (possibly a mini-bus) tour of Bexley, where the bus will be visiting each and every councillor's address where I shall be putting up a notice board that says:

A
THIEF
LIAR
&
HYPOCRITE
LIVES AT THIS ADDRESS

Not one councillor in Bexley can claim to be otherwise, because if they were residents will have received a much fairer deal in every aspect of their lives.

I'd like to extend an invitation to the NoToMob crew to attend this tour, and was rather hoping said mini-bus would have an escort of bikers in flourescent jackets and V- for Vendetta masks, obviously I'll be inviting loads more people, including Big Brother Watch, the Taxpayers Alliance and several other well-known political bloggers too.

I would be honoured if you would accept the invitation tentatively for now as obviously a lot more planning needs to take place. Perhaps the tour can end at a pub for a few pints etc too.

Look forward to your thoughts

Cheers
Olly

[news shopper martin]

As i happen to live in the bourgh of bexly sounds like a good Idea to me sir olly. Not to sure tho if it is something Notomob would get involved in but we will see

[peperami gsxr]

Well Olly i like the sound of this one   

As for 'Mob' involvment will have to see what others think and go from there 

[Kill Switch]

Well, I'm a MOB member, and I like the sound of this, just depends on whether it will be a week day or weekend, I f weekend, I for one would be happy to escort your bus

[Pat Pending]

I think I am going to err on the side of caution with this one Olly and decline, as every thing the NoToMob do is always Legal. What you are proposing sounds like it may be seen as harassment against those individuals.

[Monkey Girl]

Sorry I will decline too,
I would advise using extreme caution here, you really need to be careful, regarding causing distress to people and their families/ or accusing people of being liar's etc,What prove do you have?, I think you should approach this very gingerly, because there maybe liable consequences here for you. Be very careful...

[The Bald Eagle]

You, Sir Olly, are obviously a very passionate man when it comes to airing your views on what you believe are the shortcomings of those in power. However, I cannot condone what you propose for the same reasons as MG and Pat.

And I think MG's warning is worth repeating Sir Olly.

Please, "Be very careful".

[Bonkers]

I'm for caution too but Olly knows what we in Bexley have to put up with. For amusement and wonderment you may care to read http://www.bexley-is-bonkers.co.uk/blogs/2011/may.htm#30pt4 and perhaps visit the spoof blog linked from there.

[Sir Olly Cromwell]

Well, I'm a MOB member, and I like the sound of this, just depends on whether it will be a week day or weekend, I f weekend, I for one would be happy to escort your bus

It will be on a Saturday.

I think I am going to err on the side of caution with this one Olly and decline, as every thing the NoToMob do is always Legal. What you are proposing sounds like it may be seen as harassment against those individuals.

Sorry I will decline too,
I would advise using extreme caution here, you really need to be careful, regarding causing distress to people and their families/ or accusing people of being liar's etc,What prove do you have?, I think you should approach this very gingerly, because there maybe liable consequences here for you. Be very careful...

You, Sir Olly, are obviously a very passionate man when it comes to airing your views on what you believe are the shortcomings of those in power. However, I cannot condone what you propose for the same reasons as MG and Pat.

And I think MG's warning is worth repeating Sir Olly.

Please, "Be very careful".

Guys and Gals thanks for the feedback. I appreciate your concerns and I respect your decisions of course. I feel I need to explain a little where I'm coming from.

1. The sign boards I'm proposing to use I want to use for a reason. Thieves, Liars and Hypocrits (apart from being lyrics from a Ministry song  ) are all true. Each and every single councillor while not directly responsible for the misuse and cover up on where our council tax is being spent are complicit in the theft of said taxes. Not one of them as far as I am aware has ever stood up against the council questioning where our money has gone. I'm sure I don't need to explain the liar part of the sign board. Again each and every single councillor has sat back and allowed people like Peter Craske to lie and deceive his way out of hassle. The "Hypocrite" part of the board is self explanatory, the "do as I say, but not as I do attitude" of councillors is evident in many ways throughout the borough.

2. Under the Human Rights Act 1998 everyone has the right to protest. This is a protest. I appreciate the concerns some of you have of causing distress to the councillors and their families by turning up and sticking a sign up, I really do, however when standing for election anywhere one of the first things you might have to consider is that your details will become a matter of public record, that you will become a representative for the people of your ward. Under normal circumstances if anyone wasn't happy with the way you were performing your duties their normal recourse would be to go to the council and complain and take it from there. Between Malcolm and myself and of course the NoToMob crew I think we've successfully demonstrated that Bexley Council flouts the normal processes. I believe the ONLY way to get the point across is to do something drastic. This is it.

3. Imagine the distress you and your family would go through if you, as a matter of principle refused to pay your taxes. Do you think the council/government would take any sort of distress they may cause into account? When they drag you through court, and sully your name for taking a stand? I believe they wouldn't. It's rather evident that the council enjoy playing a dirty game. See letters from the police both Malcolm and I have received. I've been rather nonchalant about it but it caused undue distress, especially to my Mrs (and my sex life  ) It's been said if someone plays dirty not to reciprocate because you're only dragging yourself down to their level, for the most part that's true, sadly though Bexley don't understand decent, so it's time, in my opinion to play them at their own game.

Again, I respect your views and I'd never think of insulting you for having them, you are of course also welcome to attend the Bitter & Twisted Tour in a personal capacity and not as a representative of NoToMob. I hope I made sense and you understand where I'm coming from.

Cheers
Olly

[Pat Pending]

Thank you for understanding Olly and as you say if people wanted to attend in a personal capacity that is a different matter. As I said earlier we have to be ultra careful when doing anything in the name of the NoToMob and wearing our campaign Hi Viz bibs. We have so far managed to p*ss off every LA that we have assisted and all with the agreement of the police. The LA's would love the opportunity to accuse us of wrong doing, This is why we always discuss these issues amongst ourself's to try to way up the actions we carry out with any possible outcomes. So far it is a course of action that has served us well.  All of this is just my personal view and not in any way an instruction as we are all equal  on this site and in the  NoToMob.

[The Bald Eagle]

@ Sir Olly

Your opinion of the council is yours and I would not try to move you from it. However, it is the fact that it is only an opinion that unsettles me. I understand your passionate defence of our right to free speech and I believe that is what motivated us to come to Medway when it seemed that Mr Peaple's rights were being abused. It was a plain fact that the police had knocked on his door at the behest of the council.

When we were there it was a pleasure to meet Malcolm and the Bonkers crew and I have read some of the Bonkers blog with interest, particularly where he referred us to it on this thread ("...you may care to read http: //www.bexley-is-bonkers.co.uk/blogs/2011/may.htm#30pt4 ").

The attack on the Bonkers crew is undoubtedly uncalled for and indeed must be most hurtful to the named individuals, but from what I can see it is only speculation that it is the council who are responsible for it.

It also seems that both your own and Bonkers' problem is that you cannot identify who is responsible for what is happening to you, but because you publish such forthright views it has been very easy for Bexley council to find you and shut you out of the process of even trying to correct the perceived problems at the council.

WE ARE WATCHING YOU is what the banner says, and you may rest assured that now the attention of the Mob has been directed towards Bexley council, we are indeed doing just that. I cannot speak for other members, but I believe that the best way to confront those who would seek to oppress, is to use lawful means. We have got pretty good at it and councils cannot yet stop us from doing what we do, despite trying their best to have us arrested at every opportunity.

So I ask once again Sir Olly, please be very careful.

[Bonkers]

I have read some of the Bonkers blog with interest, particularly where he referred us to it on this thread ("...you may care to read http://www.bexley-is-bonkers.co.uk/blogs/2011/may.htm#30pt4 ").

The attack on the Bonkers crew is undoubtedly uncalled for and indeed must be most hurtful to the named individuals, but from what I can see it is only speculation that it is the council who are responsible for it.

Don't worry on our account BE, none of the individuals named feel hurt at all; we have laughed about it quite a lot, any more and that might hurt! 

I am genuinely interested in any thought processes that would suggest that blog is not a a council job. Elwyn (named in the blog) booked an appointment on the afternoon of Tuesday 17th May with Mr. Chris Loynes who is in charge of Members' Services. We left the council offices at 3:55 on the Friday and we were blogged next day just before 9am having told no one we were going and no one afterwards. No one outside the council could possibly know our purpose in being there.

Similarly when Nick (also named) and I went into the council car park together who but a council official or councillor would know who we were? Not the other motorists obviously.

If you can see any way that Bexley council isn't responsible I'd love to know. The only other person who could have done it is me, but I don't have an account with Google and I can spell.   

[The Bald Eagle]

Unfortunately Bonkers, your problem is that you are speculating, and councils don't have to reply to speculation. You may well be correct in what you are saying, but without proof I would respectfully suggest that your proposed joint action with Sir Olly may well end in tears and humiliation for all of those who take part.

However, I may have some suggestions for you as to how you might get the proof.  Don't forget, they are watching us every bit as much as we watch are watching them. I will pm you and Sir Olly.

[Bonkers]

I would like to correct one thing. Sir Olly and I have not engaged in any joint action and we have not discussed the issue except that he acknowledged the blog was there. He has not offered advice or any significant comment. His name appears (once?) on the blog but I think he would agree that he is very much on the periphery of this one.

One of our number is from a legal background and another is a retired police inspector. Both are giving advice.

[Bonkers]

On reflection my previous post comes across as a bit curt.

I have PM'd Bald Eagle with a good deal of detail which he was almost certainly unaware of before and we shall discuss certain strategies 'off board' as you never know who else may be looking in here.