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Offline BGB

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Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« on: 04 January, 2012, 12:33:30 PM »
The following FoI has been submitted to LBTH.

"4 January 2012
Dear Tower Hamlets Borough Council,

1) Further to FoI request 5516, under what legal grounds did LBTH
issue the 189 PCNs on Saturdays during 2010 in respect of the bus
lane between Malcolm Place and Mile End Road? Please quote the
relevant Traffic Management Order including Full Name, Section,
Schedule and Item numbers.

2) Further to FoI request 5516, under what legal grounds did LBTH
issue the 265 PCNs on Saturdays during 2010 in respect of the bus
lane between Three Colts Lane and Bethnal Green Road? Please quote
the relevant Traffic Management Order including Full Name, Section,
Schedule and Item numbers."

See http://towerhamletsfoi.org.uk/disclosureLogMonth.asp?year_value=2011&month_value=11 for FoI 5516
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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #1 on: 04 January, 2012, 12:55:49 PM »
From Tim Rodgers, LBTH Information Manager

"...a copy of the TMO for Cambridge Heath Road which had already been provided to you in
response to Freedom of Information Request 5032..."

See http://towerhamletsfoi.org.uk/disclosureLogMonth.asp?year_value=2011&month_value=8 for FoI 5032

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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #2 on: 04 January, 2012, 01:30:02 PM »
Please note the following extracts from

The Tower Hamlets (Bus Priority)(No.2) Traffic Order 1999

Item 2

Length of Road
Cambridge Heath Road, the east side, between a point 8 metres south of the southern kerbline of Patriot Square and a point 67 metres north of the northern kerbline of Roman Road.

Times of operation
Mon – Fri
07.00 hrs  – 10.00 hrs
16.00 hrs  – 19.00 hrs

Direction of travel and type of bus lane
southbound with-flow

Type of permitted vehicle
buses or local buses
dial a ride bus
taxi
pedal cycle

The times on the signs are
Mon – Sat
7.00 – 10.00am
4.00 – 7.00pm
bus
taxi


Item 3 [This is the bus lane shown in FoI 5516 as "W/Chaple [sic] - Three Colts"]

Length of Road
Cambridge Heath Road, the east side, between a point 118 metres south of the southern kerbline of Malcom Place and a point 30.5 metres north of the nothern kerbline of Key Close.

Times of operation
Mon – Fri 16.00 hrs  – 19.00 hrs

Direction of travel and type of bus lane
southbound with-flow

Type of permitted vehicle
buses or local buses
dial a ride bus
taxi
pedal cycle

The times on the signs are
Mon – Sat
7.00 – 10.00am
4.00 – 7.00pm
bus
taxi
(there is no cycle on the advance sign but there is on the start of bus lane sign)



Item 4  [This is the bus lane shown in FoI 5516 as "Three Colts - Bethnal Green"]

Length of Road
Cambridge Heath Road, the west side, between a point 38 metres north of the northern kerbline of Three Colts Lane and a point 89 metres south of the southern kerbline of Bethnal Green Road.

Times of operation
Mon – Fri 07.00 hrs  – 10.00 hrs

Direction of travel and type of bus lane
notthbound with-flow

Type of permitted vehicle
buses or local buses
dial a ride bus
taxi
pedal cycle

The times on the signs are

Mon – Sat
7.00 – 10.00am
4.00 – 7.00pm
bus
taxi
(a cycle is shown on the advance sign but not at the start of bus lane sign)
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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #3 on: 04 January, 2012, 03:07:40 PM »
This is great work BGB. :aplude: :aplude: :aplude: :aplude: :aplude: :aplude:

I assume you will be writing to your local council immediately to ask that they cease enforcement of these bus lanes forthwith pending correction of the signs, at the same time requesting that they pay back the 454 people who have been given PCNs for an offence they didn't commit?

And I'm sure you will want to c.c. your local papers in on this too? ;)
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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #4 on: 04 January, 2012, 03:13:49 PM »
Ditto, good work  :aplude: :aplude: :aplude:
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice


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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #5 on: 04 January, 2012, 04:42:47 PM »
Excellent work BGB.

Object to their accounts if they do not repay. Get the press involved.

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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #6 on: 06 January, 2012, 09:30:45 AM »
Skeggsy has just pointed out (he's round my house on a mission) that there is a problem with the times on two of these as well. Item 3 doesn't operate 07.00 to 10.00 and item 4 doesn't operate 16.00 to 19.00.

Perhaps another FoI BGB?
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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #7 on: 06 January, 2012, 10:10:39 AM »
Surely they can't be enforcing the bus lane in Bethnal Green Road at all if it is marked as in Google street view?  There are no arrows informing that you need to pull out.

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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #8 on: 06 January, 2012, 11:08:57 AM »
Nigel

LBTH does not enforce the Bus Lane in Bethnal Green Road (see FoI 5516) which is rather fortunate for them since, as you correctly observe, it is a mess. 

The markings have have been re-painted since Google Street view was taken but this has only consisted of repainting the incorrect lines.  However, there are still numerous defects.  These include lack of/late deflection arrows and bus lane markings and yellow lines within a pedestrian crossing zig-zag.

Of most concern is the fact that the carriageway is narrowed to one lane for the pedestrian crossings adjacent to Wilmot Street and Ainsley Street, requiring traffic to use the left hand side of the carriageway which outside of the zig-zags constitutes the bus lane. 

After the Ainsley Street Crossing there is a stretch of road which has a thick white line required for a bus lane but no bus lane sign or lane marking.  It is therefore not clear to the driver whether this stretch of the road is a bus lane or not.

This requires a driver proceeding west to proceed to the 2nd lane at the start of the bus lane, move back into the (single) 1st lane for the first crossing, back into the second lane (before the end of the zig-zags) between the crossings, back into the (single) 1st lane for the second crossing, deciding if the stretch of road immediately after the second crossing is a bus lane, before moving to the second lane again.  I am sure that this cannot be good design.

There was recently a fatal accident on the Ainsley Street Crossing.  The investigation is, so far as I know still continuing.

It is already on my list of future projects. 

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STOP PRESS: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #9 on: 06 January, 2012, 06:11:08 PM »
I have just learnt that LBTH supplied an out of date TMO to me, despite me asking them to check it.

 :bashy: :bashy:  :bashy:

Still, there are plenty of other things wrong round here.

BGB

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Re: Cambridge Heath Road Bus Lanes
« Reply #10 on: 06 January, 2012, 06:39:09 PM »
Well done BGB do not relent keep at them and pass them a bigger shovel. The more you ask them, the deeper they dig their hole. :aplude: :aplude: :aplude:
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up,  totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a  ride!!"