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Offline Marmite

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is a Penalty charge notice down to the registered owner for parking offences ???

Offline DastardlyDick

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is a Penalty charge notice down to the registered owner for parking offences ???

PCNs and/or FPN(N)s issued by either the Police or Local Authorities are ultimately enforced against the Registered Keeper.
FPN(E)s are enforced against the Driver.
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Offline tommy the trumpet

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Does the registered keeper have to be flesh and blood, as I seem to recall even a company owned vehicle has to have a name on the log book.

The reason why I ask is I have just had a new red log book returned for my company van and it only lists my company name on the front and the registered keeper part.
I am sure all the others I have ever had always had a name on it.

The company is a business and cannot possibly drive a vehicle so if I receive a pcn addressed to the company do they have a right(being a civil matter) to ask who was driving, as the default is the name on the log book who is not a living person.

Probably another dvla cock up but maybe a useful one.
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I'd have to check, but I believe that, while Company vehicles do not have an actual persons name on them, it is the Company Secretary (or equivalent) that "owns" the vehicle.

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I think it is the case that the keeper has to be a person. My mate used to deal in ex police bikes and the chief constable of the force in question was always the keeper.
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I think it is the case that the keeper has to be a person. My mate used to deal in ex police bikes and the chief constable of the force in question was always the keeper.

Yes, in the case of a Company that person is the Company Secretary. They are not named on the Registration Document, because otherwise you'd have to change it if you got a new Company Secretary - imagine doing that for a large fleet like Hertz UK Ltd!