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Oversized yellow box junctions UNFAIRLY trigger fines
« on: 15 March, 2024, 01:19:20 PM »
I have had to split this article into three posts because it exceeds the amount of characters allowed in any one post (20,000).

It's interesting to note that there are six yellow boxes in London that serve no purpose whatsoever (I've checked them all out on Googlemaps and the bloke is right), other than to raise revenue.

Only goes to prove it really is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY

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Yellow box junctions UNFAIRLY trigger fines - because they're bigger than they need to be

Around 98% of top 100 yellow boxes in London and Cardiff are too large
In 2020 1,500 drivers per week snared by cameras around Central London
RAC found that eight out of ten drivers struggle to clear yellow box junctions

By FREDA LEWIS-STEMPEL
UPDATED: 00:01, 15 March 2024


Drivers in London and Cardiff are being unfairly stung with fines of up to £160 for yellow box junction infringements because the road markings are unnecessarily large.

A new study from the RAC shows almost every yellow box junction is bigger than it needs to be, leading to unjust fines handed out to motorists and in turn has become a lucrative cash cow for local authorities.

Staggeringly, almost 98 per cent of the 100 yellow box junctions in London and Cardiff responsible for generating the most penalty charge notices (PCNs) in 2019 were larger than necessary for preventing vehicles blocking the path of other crossing traffic.

*Scroll to the bottom of this story to see the full list of the 100 most lucrative box junctions of 2019 and how much of the painted road markings are unnecessary


Sam Wright, chartered engineer who was formerly responsible for the design and approval of yellow boxes on Transport for London's roads, found that the average box was 50 per cent bigger than it needed to be to serve the primary purpose of having a yellow box in the first place – to prevent vehicles blocking the path of other crossing traffic

Sam Wright, a chartered engineer formerly responsible for the design and approval of yellow boxes on Transport for London's roads, was commissioned by the RAC to examine yellow boxes in both capitals.

He found that the average box was 50 per cent bigger than it needed to be to serve the primary purpose of having a yellow box in the first place – to prevent vehicles blocking the path of other crossing traffic.

In 2023 the Government decided to let councils outside London and Cardiff apply for powers to enforce moving traffic offences, with the result that 27 local authorities put forward proposals to enforce 111 yellow box junctions.

The yellow 'criss-cross' boxes are used to keep traffic flowing through busy junctions, with drivers not allowed to enter a box unless the exit is clear and there's enough space to clear the box without stopping inside the yellow lines.


1. Talgarth Road and Butterwick junction, Hammersmith, West London - 25,681 tickets costing up to £3.4million. Source: Yellow Box Guru. Freedom of Information requests. Using latest figures pre-pandemic 2019 as estimate for current traffic fines. Value calculated on Penalty Charge Notice of £130*, £160**. These charges halve if paid within 14 days.


2. West Hill Wandsworth fire station junction, South-West London - a grid in front of the station on a busy road - 18,000 tickets a year, costing up to £3 million


3. Traffic lights at the junction between New Kings Road and Bagleys Lane in Fulham, West London - 16,000 tickets a year, costing up to £2.1 million*


4. Homerton High ST/Homerton Fire STN caused 10,391 PCNs between 2018 and 2019 but 56 per cent of the box served no purpose


5. New Kings Rd J/w Bagleys Lane, under Hammersmith & Fulham authority was responsible for 16,199 fines yet 69 per cent of the box has no use


6. Churchill Way/Bute Terrace in Cardiff meant 9,144 drivers had PCNs sent to them while 68 per cent of the box is redundant


7. New Rd/Link Rd, part of Barking council issued 7,245 fines that year despite 70 of the box clearly unnecessary


8. Putney High Street/ Lacy RD part of Wandsworth's council has a huge 82 per cent of yellow criss-cross that's not effective but 6,877 were still issued between 2018 and 2019


9. Croydon Rd/Langley Rd in Bromley issued 6,802 in 2019 but 62 per cent of the box is not an effective traffic measure


10. Rounding off the top 10, High St EN5/St Albans Rd in Barnet caught 6,796 drivers but this 76 of the box is of no use

Yellow boxes rake it millions of pounds each year for local authorities.

In 2019 alone, the top 100 yellow boxes responsible for 374,276 fines.

The following year, TfL issued 77,000 box junction penalty charge notices worth at least £5million for contraventions on Red Routes in 2020, a Freedom of Information request revealed.

That works out to an average of 1,500 drivers per week snared by automatic number plate recognition cameras around Central London policing box junctions.

RAC spokesperson Rod Dennis said: 'With more and more councils starting to enforce yellow box junctions, it is absolutely vital that they are designed first and foremost with aiding traffic flow and that they don’t exist simply to raise revenue from drivers.'

'Unfortunately, any box that is bigger than needed – whether that’s due to an oversight on the council’s part or because it was painted on the road many years ago and hasn’t been reviewed – risks drivers being fined unnecessarily when their actions haven’t contributed to congestion.'


Automatic number plate recognition cameras cover all of London and major cities, catching drivers for traffic offences, with penalty notices sent through the post to unsuspecting motorists

Last year, the RAC and Wright warned that up to 90 per cent of these boxes are likely to lead to drivers being fined unfairly.

More than half (55 per cent) directly contravene the current government guidance, sometimes on multiple counts.

Some 40 boxes were found to pose visibility issues for drivers, yet drivers are the ones parting with hard earned cash when they stray over the lines.

The RAC found that eight out of ten drivers say they struggle to clear yellow box junctions — with half saying they have accidentally got stuck in one, largely due to bad driving by other motorists.

And the penalties for stopping illegally in a box junction can be expensive.

On TfL red routes, the penalty charge notice is £160, reduced to £80 if paid within 14 days.

In London Boroughs the penalty is £130, reduced to £65 if paid within 14 days.

Cardiff and other English authorities penalise motorists £70, reduced to £35 if paid within 21 days.

Bromley Council in South London made £2.59m in 2022 alone from box fines.


The RAC found that eight out of ten drivers say they struggle to clear yellow box junctions — with half saying they have accidentally got stuck in one, largely due to bad driving by other motorists

There have been occasions where drivers have successfully challenged fines from councils where boxes are too big, but this hasn't led to a lasting change in the way the law is applied.

The RAC and Sam Wright are calling on the Government to urgently refresh its advice to councils on yellow boxes and make it crystal clear when and how they should be used.

Wright added: 'The Government has stated that ‘poorly designed schemes can undermine enforcement overall and give rise to public perception of revenue raising.’

'But it needs to go further and be crystal clear with local authorities about what is acceptable and what isn’t when it comes to the design of yellow box junctions.

'The current official design guidance is woefully inadequate and needs to be updated.'

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Re: Oversized yellow box junctions UNFAIRLY trigger fines
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THE 100 MOST LUCRATIVE YELLOW BOX JUNCTIONS - AND HOW EACH ONE SERVES NO PURPOSE AND THEREFORE UNFAIRLY STINGS DRIVERS

         Location                                                                                  Authority                                No. of PCNs in 2019                   % of box which serves no purpose
1   Talgarth Rd/Butterwick                                                              Hammersmith & Fulham                               25,681                                                              80%
2   West Hill Wandsworth Fire Station                                              TfL                                                              18,040                                                              65%
3   A5 West Hendon Broadway/Cool Oak Lane                                  Barnet                                                         10,848                                                              41%
4   Homerton High St/Homerton Fire Station                                    TfL                                                              10,391                                                              56%
5   New Kings Rd/Bagleys Lane                                                       Hammersmith & Fulham                                16,199                                                             69%
6   Churchill Way/Bute terrace                                                        Cardiff                                                          9144                                                               68%
7   New Rd/Link Rd                                                                       Barking                                                         7245                                                               70%
8   Putney High St/ Lacy Rd                                                           Wandsworth                                                  6877                                                               82%
9   Croydon Rd/Langley Rd                                                            Bromley                                                        6802                                                               62%
10   High St EN5/St Albans Rd                                                         Barnet                                                          6796                                                               76%
11   Harwood Road/Effie Road                                                         Hammersmith & Fulham                                 6497                                                               51%
12   Upper Sunbury Rd/Lower Sunbury Rd                                        Richmond                                                     6244                                           100%
13   Redbridge Lane East                                                                 Redbridge                                                     6006                                                               55%
14   Welling High St/Danson Lane/Parkview Rd                                  Bexley                                                         5947                                                                60%
15   The Green E4/Woodland Road E4                                                 Waltham Forest                                             5441                                                                70%
16   Upper Woburn Place/Endsleigh Gardens                                     TfL                                                               5349                                                                34%
17   Kennington Lane/Albert Embankment                                        TfL                                                               5239                                                                50%
18   Addiscombe Rd near junction of A5231 Altyre Rd                        Croydon                                                       5231                                                                74%
19   Archway Rd/Jacksons Lane/Shepherd's Hill                                 TfL                                                              5129                                                                34%
20   Horns Rd/Perrymans Farm Rd                                                    Redbridge                                                    4977                                                                59%
21   Forest Rd/Kingsley Rd                                                               Waltham Forest                                            4947                                                                39%
22   Peckham High St/Peckham Bus Station (East Box)                       TfL                                                              4899                                                                27%
23   Adam Street/Central Link                                                          Cardiff                                                         4700                                                                48%
24   Greenford Rd/Otter Rd                                                              Ealing                                                          4627                                                                61%
25   Uxbridge Rd                                                                             Hammersmith & Fulham                                4430                                                                34%
26   Regents Park Rd/Tillingbourne Gardens                                       Barnet                                                         4254                                                                55%
27   Westminster Bridge Rd/Upper Marsh                                          Lambeth                                                       4217                                                                57%
28   High Rd/Ravensdale Ave                                                           Barnet                                                          4168                                                                48%
29   Hanger Lane/Ealing Village                                                        TfL                                                              4164                                                                 58%
30   Park Parade/Rucklidge Avenue                                                   Brent                                                           3930                                                                58%
31   Edgware Rd/Seymour St                                                            TfL                                                              3845                                                                34%
32   Willoughby Lane/ Park Avenue Rd                                              Haringey                                                      3867                                                                 48%
33   High Rd SW                                                                             Redbridge                                                     3826                                                                55%
34   Finchley Rd/Golders Green Bus Station                                      Barnet                                                          3433                                                                 40%
35   Southbury Rd/Eaton Rd                                                            Enfield                                                          3368                                                                 57%
36   Hammersmith Bridge Rd SW Under A4/Hammersmith Flyover     Hammersmith & Fulham                                 3320                                             100%
37   Southern Arm Target Roundabout                                              TfL                                                               3308                                                                 42%
38   North St/George St                                                                 Barking                                                          3284                                                                 77%
39   Richmond Rd/Sopwith Way                                                      Kingston                                                        3252                                             100%
40   Catford Rd/Rushley Green                                                       TfL                                                                 3156                                                                  74%
41   Shepherds Bush Rd                                                                Hammersmith & Fulham                                   3105                                                                  54%
42   Vauxhall Bridge Rd/Rampayne St                                            TfL                                                                  2980                                                                  68%
43   Seven Sisters Rd/Blackstock Rd                                              TfL                                                                  2955                                                0%
44   Purley Way/Croydon Rd                                                          TfL                                                                 2944                                                                  19%
45   Green Lanes/Kimberley Gardens                                             Haringey                                                         2872                                                                  50%
46   Cricklewood Lane/Superstore Access Rd                                  Barnet                                                            2805                                                                  40%
47   Whalebone Lane North/Rose Lane                                           Barking                                                           2786                                                 100%
48   Marylebone Rd/Seymour Place/Lisson Green                            TfL                                                                  2707                                                                 36%
49   Bromley Rd/Shortlands Rd                                                     Bromley                                                           2684                                                                 69%
50   Barley Lane/Thackeray Drive                                                 Redbridge                                                         2641                                                                 53%
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Re: Oversized yellow box junctions UNFAIRLY trigger fines
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         Location                                                                                  Authority                                No. of PCNs in 2019                   % of box which serves no purpose

51   A5 Cricklewood Broadway/Depot Approach                             Barnet                                                              2618                                                                 50%
52   Fore Street/College Gardens                                                 Enfield                                                              2610                                                                 58%
53   Leckwith Gyratory/A4323/Hadfield                                        Cardiff                                                              2525                                                                  51%
54   London Rd/Asda car park                                                     Kingston                                                            2510                                                                 54%
55   Chingford Mt Rd/Albert Avenue                                             Waltham Forest                                                  2497                                                                 47%
56   Putney High St/Norroy Rd                                                     Wandsworth                                                      2485                                                                 49%
57   Goodmayes Rd/Goodmayes Ave                                             Redbridge                                                         2470                                                                 60%
58   Kings Rd/Pretoria Road                                                           Waltham Forest                                                2435                                                                 48%
59   Berkeley St/Piccadily                                                              Westminster                                                     2410                                                                46%
60   Haydons Road j/w Cromwell Road                                            Merton                                                            2336                                                                 46%
61   East India Dock Rd/Christopher St                                           TfL                                                                  2324                                                                 59%
62   Chingford Rd/Brettenham Rd                                                  Waltham Forest                                                 2291                                                                 50%
63   Mount Pleasant/Sunleigh Road                                                Brent                                                               2252                                                                 58%
64   Hall Lane /Albert Crescent                                                      Waltham Forest                                                 2219                                                                59%
65   High St Bromley South/Police Station                                      Bromley                                                           2155                                                                 32%
66   High Rd Leytonstone/Bush Rd                                                Waltham Forest                                                 2151                                                                 40%
67   Garratt Lane/Thornsett Rd                                                     Wandsworth                                                      2099                                                                 53%
68   Edgware Rd/Connaught St/Upper Berkeley St                          TfL                                                                   1997                                                                 38%
69   Green Lanes/Rutland Gardens                                                 Haringey                                                          1964                                                                 43%
70   Kennington Park Rd/Harleyford St (West Box)                           TfL                                                                  1939                                                                 26%
71   London Rd/Broadway Gardens                                                Merton                                                             1875                                                                 50%
72   Battersea BrIdge Rd/Westbridge Rid/Parkgate Rd                      TfL                                                                  1868                                                                 25%
73   High Rd Goodmayes/Eastwood Rd                                            Redbridge                                                        1849                                                                 50%
74   Brixton Rd/Stockwell Rd/Gresham Rd (East Box)                       TfL                                                                  1798                                                                 32%
75   Bute St/Customhouse St/Hayes                                               Cardiff                                                             1787                                                                 32%
76   Hertford Rd/Galliard Rd                                                           Enfield                                                            1765                                                                  31%
77   Wembley Hill Rd/Royal Route                                                   Brent                                                              1760                                                                  57%
78   Hornsey Rd/Mayton St                                                            Islington                                                          1752                                                                 52%
79   A5 Cricklewood Broadway/Kara Way                                        Barnet                                                             1721                                                                  61%
80   London Rd/Lavender Avenue                                                   Merton                                                            1659                                               100%
81   Upper Sunbury Rd/Percy Rd                                                    Richmond                                                        1641                                                                 58%
82   Great Cambridge Rd/Bullsmoor Lane                                        TfL                                                                  1607                                                                 36%
83   Crofton Rd/Approach Rd/Supermarket                                     Bromley                                                           1582                                                                 47%
84   East Lane/Llanover Rd                                                            Brent                                                               1566                                                                 51%
85   Canonbury Lane/Tyndale Terrace                                             Islington                                                           1513                                                                55%     
86   Great Eastern St/Curtain Rd/Gatesborough St                           TfL                                                                  1510                                                                 32%
87   East India Dock Rd/St Leonards Rd (West Box)                         TfL                                                                   1471                                                0%
88   Uxbridge Rd/Wharncliffe Drive                                                 Ealing                                                              1444                                               100%
89   Kingston Rd/Dorset Rd                                                            Merton                                                             1433                                                                35%
90   Cray Avenue/Cray Valley Rd                                                    Bromley                                                           1408                                                                 47%
91   Central Avenue/Stephenson Close                                           Bexley                                                              1397                                                                 54%
92   Leckwith Rd/Cardiff International Sport Centre                         Cardiff                                                              1395                                                                 34%
93   Lower Addiscombe Rd/ Davidson Rd                                        Croydon                                                           1386                                                                 53%
94   Norwood Rd/Lancaster Avenue                                                Lambeth                                                          1364                                                                 49%
95   Streatham High Rd/Sranthorpe Rd/Gleneagle Rd                      TfL                                                                   1360                                                                 36%
96   Dumfries Place/Newport Rd                                                    Cardiff                                                              1355                                                                 61%
97   Broadway/Upton Rd/Crook Log                                               Bexley                                                              1352                                                                 55%
98   Uxbridge Rd/Harlington Rd East/Hanworth Rd                           TfL                                                                  1341                                                                 52%
99   Great West Rd                                                                       Hammersmith & Fulham                                     1338                                                                59%
100   Well Hall Rd/Broadwalk                                                           TfL                                                                   1134                                                                51%
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Re: Oversized yellow box junctions UNFAIRLY trigger fines
« Reply #3 on: 16 March, 2024, 08:54:07 AM »
Size matters: 98% of top 100 yellow box junctions for fining drivers in London and Cardiff are bigger than necessary



Almost every yellow box junction of 100 analysed in London and Cardiff is bigger than it needs to be to prevent traffic congestion, leading to countless unnecessary fines for drivers, a new study commissioned for the RAC has found.
The RAC asked Sam Wright, the chartered engineer who runs the Yellow Box Guru website and was formerly responsible for the design and approval of yellow boxes on Transport for London’s roads, to examine those already in force in the two capital cities.

After analysing the 100 junctions which are responsible for generating the most fines in 2019, incredibly he found that 98 were larger than necessary, with the average box being 50% bigger than it needed to be to serve the primary purpose of having a yellow box in the first place – to prevent vehicles blocking the path of other crossing traffic.

More than half (53) meanwhile are not under traffic light control and could therefore easily be converted to ‘keep clear’ markings to serve the same purpose, without the risk of a driver being sent a Penalty Charge Notice and ordered to pay a fine.

While yellow boxes can play an important role in keeping vehicles moving at busy junctions, those boxes – or parts of boxes – that do not prevent vehicles blocking the path of other crossing traffic serve no purpose, meaning there can be no justification for them being there and therefore for councils fining drivers every time they partially stop in them. However, this principle is only very loosely referred to in the current guidance, leading to inconsistent compliance among councils.1

Poorly designed, oversized boxes create all sorts of other problems for drivers as well. Under Highway Code Rule 174, drivers must only enter boxes if they can see their exit is clear.2

If a yellow box is so big it is impossible to see where it ends – or if the road markings have worn out – judging whether to drive into or not becomes extremely difficult.

While there have been occasions where drivers have successfully challenged fines from councils where boxes are too big, unfortunately these decisions do not lead to lasting change in the way the law is applied.

The RAC and Sam Wright are therefore calling on the Government to urgently refresh its advice to councils, to spell out precisely their purpose in terms of preventing the cross movement of other traffic, and to make it crystal clear where and how they should be used.

There are a number of reasons why yellow boxes might be too big, the most likely one being that they were painted prior to 2016 when the regulations were last updated and demanded that boxes had to extend to the kerbs on either side of the junction.

Yet government guidance from 2022, aimed primarily at new councils enforcing ‘moving traffic offences’ including yellow boxes, states: ‘Enforcement action should not commence at any location where contraventions could be avoided by reasonable improvements to the highway or to traffic signs, and not until such improvements are made and appropriate monitoring has been carried out'. Arguably, the guidance is just as a relevant to councils in London and Cardiff that are already enforcing yellow boxes, although it does not formally apply to them.3

As well as looking at the overall size of the yellow boxes, the RAC-commissioned study found a fifth of those analysed (22) are also potentially not compliant with the Traffic Signs Regulations 2016 as they:

Extend beyond a junction by at least a car length – making it difficult or impossible for drivers to see where a box ends, increasing the risk of them stopping in them accidentally, and/or;
Are in a non-permitted location such as outside a private car park or on a roundabout or gyratory that is not controlled by traffic lights, and/or;
Cover the far side of a T junction (ruled in several adjudicator cases to be non-compliant, as again if a driver stops in this part of a box they are not affecting the passage of other traffic)

There are a number of reasons why yellow boxes might be too big, the most likely one being that they were painted prior to 2016 when the regulations were last updated and demanded that boxes had to extend to the kerbs on either side of the junction.

Yet government guidance from 2022, aimed primarily at new councils enforcing ‘moving traffic offences’ including yellow boxes, states: ‘Enforcement action should not commence at any location where contraventions could be avoided by reasonable improvements to the highway or to traffic signs, and not until such improvements are made and appropriate monitoring has been carried out'. Arguably, the guidance is just as a relevant to councils in London and Cardiff that are already enforcing yellow boxes, although it does not formally apply to them.3

As well as looking at the overall size of the yellow boxes, the RAC-commissioned study found a fifth of those analysed (22) are also potentially not compliant with the Traffic Signs Regulations 2016 as they:

Extend beyond a junction by at least a car length – making it difficult or impossible for drivers to see where a box ends, increasing the risk of them stopping in them accidentally, and/or;
Are in a non-permitted location such as outside a private car park or on a roundabout or gyratory that is not controlled by traffic lights, and/or;
Cover the far side of a T junction (ruled in several adjudicator cases to be non-compliant, as again if a driver stops in this part of a box they are not affecting the passage of other traffic), and the potential for unnecessary fines increases still further.

“The Government has stated that ‘poorly designed schemes can undermine enforcement overall and give rise to public perception of revenue raising.’ But it needs to go further and be crystal clear with local authorities about what is acceptable and what isn’t when it comes to the design of yellow box junctions. The current official design guidance is woefully inadequate and needs to be updated.”

What’s the penalty for stopping in a yellow box junction?

In London, many box junctions have cameras in place, and you could be fined if you’re caught using the box incorrectly. On Transport for London (TfL) red routes, the penalty charge notice is £160, reduced to £80 if paid within 14 days. In London Boroughs the penalty is £130, reduced to £65 if paid within 14 days, The penalty in Cardiff and in other English authorities that have been granted the power to enforce, is £70.00. If payment is made within 21 days, then this is reduced to £35.

What guidance has been provided to councils on designing and enforcing yellow boxes?

Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions (2016): https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-regulations-and-general-directions-2016-an-overview
Traffic signs manual chapter 5 road markings (2018): https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-manual

Statutory guidance: Traffic Management Act 2004: statutory guidance for local authorities outside London on civil enforcement of bus lane and moving traffic contraventions (2022): https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-enforcement-outside-london/traffic-management-act-2004-statutory-guidance-for-local-authorities-outside-london-on-civil-enforcement-of-bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-contravention

1 See section ‘8.3 Suitability’ of Traffic Signs Manual, Chapter 5 (Road Markings) - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-manual. This states: ‘Experience has shown that the marking improves traffic flow where previously there were delays due to vehicles blocking the junction and impeding the cross flow.’

2 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203

3 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-enforcement-outside-london/traffic-management-act-2004-statutory-guidance-for-local-authorities-outside-london-on-civil-enforcement-of-bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-contravention. Relevant wording as follows:
‘local authorities should appraise their bus lane and moving traffic policies and the way those are operating to see which traffic management objectives are being met and where improvements are needed, having regard to the potential effect on surrounding roads.’
‘Enforcement action should not commence at any location where contraventions could be avoided by reasonable improvements to the highway or to traffic signs, and not until such improvements are made and appropriate monitoring has been carried out.’
‘Scheme design should be reviewed to look afresh at the measures to be enforced to ensure that there is no location where a motorist would have to contravene the provisions to avoid a road safety or congestion problem. These might include left-hand turns where there is a bus lane and yellow box junction where the exit cannot be seen before entering it. Poorly designed schemes can undermine enforcement overall and give rise to public perception of revenue raising.’


https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/size-matters-98-of-top-100-yellow-box-junctions-for-fining-drivers/

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Re: Oversized yellow box junctions UNFAIRLY trigger fines
« Reply #4 on: 25 March, 2024, 05:47:58 PM »
Thank you, most useful information; I note that two of the list are within a couple of miles of me and are notorious for entrapment. My personal bug bare is the one at Crisp Street on the East India Dock Rd where the following lights are timed to snare unwitting drivers, it is also well oversize.
Willing to do my bit...

 


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