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Offline Monkey Girl

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Re: CCTV $cars are NOT allowed to park illegally.........FACT!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: 26 April, 2011, 09:25:40 AM »
I have footage of the $cars 11.30 at night all parked up illegally!
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« Reply #31 on: 26 April, 2011, 12:08:35 PM »
If it's at all possible, may I ask that you send any time and date stamped pictures or footage to Esinem so that he can make Cllr. Rowley "...aware of any continuing issues." I have already sent him mine including the one with rust on the brake disc of a car that was parked illegally in the same spot for about three weeks, but which never received a ticket.
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Re: CCTV $cars are NOT allowed to park illegally.........FACT!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: 26 April, 2011, 05:35:09 PM »
"At the end of 2010, Westminster agreed with NSL that CCTV vehicles need not carry dispensation boards, as this would offer a cost saving. CEOs were briefed as to the dispensations that applied to CCTV cars, but there has been no alteration to handheld units and the relevant VRNs are not blocked on handheld units". :bashy: :bashy: :bashy: :bashy:

So a few bits of plastic board offer a cost saving do they :bashy: :bashy: :bashy: Meanwhile there are now how many $cars on the WCC payroll :bashy: :bashy: :bashy: And Esinem`s latest calculation re the dummy camera at Savile Row :bashy: :bashy: :bashy: :bashy:

Don`t worry all, Jedwood says he has saved costs to the Tax payer by not buying bits of plastic.........." there has been no alteration to handheld units and the relevant VRNs are not blocked on handheld units."......so no dispensation boards displayed......no blocking of $car VRMs on CEO handhelds BUT...........NO PCNs EVER ISSUED TO $CARS  :bashy: :bashy: :bashy: :bashy: Silly me, why would NSL issues PCNs to themselves FFS :bashy: :bashy: :bashy: :bashy:


"This does not provide a general, permanent exemption, and indeed such a measure would be contrary to the Traffic Management Act guidance, which states: “TROs usually also exempt service vehicles, but only when they are being used to carry out certain activities...”


So for the honey pots let`s see the individual TROs that detail the dispensation for such vehicles under the "statutory powers" excuse and for mobile parking operations, does this mean that such a TRO is in order for EVERY street in WCC, again detailing the "statutory powers" wording???
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« Reply #33 on: 27 April, 2011, 08:14:08 AM »
No, there has been no "alteration to handheld units and the relevant VRNs are not blocked on handheld units" because (I assume) they're actually blocked on the database, which obviously isn't on the handheld device.
How to tell a pack of lies, while at the same time being 'open & honest'.
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« Reply #35 on: 05 May, 2011, 02:19:41 AM »
Looks like you have 'em bang to rights, notwithstanding "there are no provisions in the TMA or any of its regulations that create exemptions to parking restrictions in TROs for vehicles engaged in camera enforcement”! [/font:2n37cilu][/color] :aplude:
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« Reply #36 on: 12 May, 2011, 10:27:34 PM »
Heres the FOI request Ive been waiting for,  which according to Medway Council, this allows their CCTV cars to park on Double yellow etc

@have a look BH

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/road_traffic_certificates_orders#incoming-173854
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« Reply #37 on: 12 May, 2011, 11:16:47 PM »
So I can see that more drivers will need to be recruited soon to replace the ones soon to be dismissed for flouting No Entry signs and One Way streets and putting the general public at considerable risk!!!
Go get em MG, why should they think they can try to enforce rules with the public and have total disregard for the same rules for themselves. W:T:F:
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« Reply #38 on: 13 May, 2011, 05:14:00 AM »
So they can`t drive through NO ENTRY roads as we thought and  they are still using the "Statutary Powers" excuse for every thing else eh??? :-ev-: :-ev-: Well done  MG
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« Reply #39 on: 13 May, 2011, 03:53:31 PM »
There all at it.:
Richmond Council defends 'spy' car parking on double yellow lines.

http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/richmond_news/5072394.Caught_on_camera__Council__spy__car_snapped_parked_on_double_yell/

They are still safely parked up in their pen - gathering dust! Day in and day out. ;D
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« Reply #40 on: 13 May, 2011, 05:06:51 PM »
Quote from: "Pat Pending"
So I can see that more drivers will need to be recruited soon to replace the ones soon to be dismissed for flouting No Entry signs and One Way streets and putting the general public at considerable risk!!!
Go get em MG, why should they think they can try to enforce rules with the public and have total disregard for the same rules for themselves. W:T:F:
we have had 5  drivers sacked since 12th Feb down in Medway!  W:T:F:
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« Reply #41 on: 13 May, 2011, 09:23:16 PM »
Do you mean the NoToMob have had 5 drivers sacked, or is that the Royal (Medway) sense of the word we?

I don't think we want drivers thinking that our aim is to get them the sack, do we?
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« Reply #42 on: 13 May, 2011, 10:37:59 PM »
Quote from: "The Bald Eagle"
Do you mean the NoToMob have had 5 drivers sacked, or is that the Royal (Medway) sense of the word we?

I don't think we want drivers thinking that our aim is to get them the sack, do we?

Sorry BE  :schucks:  to[font=calibri:zwxvy59u] reiterate correctly, Medway Council may have dismissed 4 cctv car drivers, and one dangerous driver may have been sacked due to notomob footage of his dangerous driving, although this has not been officially confirmed yet![/font:zwxvy59u] [font=times new roman:zwxvy59u] [/font:zwxvy59u]
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« Reply #43 on: 16 May, 2011, 10:28:09 AM »
Quote from: "Monkey Girl"
Heres the FOI request Ive been waiting for,  which according to Medway Council, this allows their CCTV cars to park on Double yellow etc

@have a look BH

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/road_traffic_certificates_orders#incoming-173854
After reviewing this FOI, they didnt actually answer my first question as pointed out to me, so I have requested a internal review.
 
 [align=left:3t12d8ve][font=Tahoma:3t12d8ve][color=rgb(85, 85, 85)]grooks left an annotation (15 May 2011)Correct me if i'm wrong but their reply has got nothing to do with your question.
You asked about "No vehicle access" route, i take it you mean

"No entry for vehicular traffic"

they replied with "waiting and loading restrictions", yes it did mention excempt vehicles but only for the above
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Re: CCTV $cars are NOT allowed to park illegally.........FACT!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #44 on: 16 May, 2011, 09:03:55 PM »
Dear Department for Transport,

I refer you to
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_downlo...

The pertinent comment I wish to bring to your attention is as
follows:

"One of the principle difficulties is that the driver of the CCTV
vehicle parks is for anything up to five minutes while the operator
points the camera at the offending vehicle. Appellants have
questioned why the council CCTV car can
park for five minutes on a double yellow line while they are having
penalties imposed on them for the same practice. Adjudicators have
noticed that in some of the correspondence the council has claimed
that the TMA provides an exemption from parking restrictions for a
CCTV vehicle. This is not the case - there are NO provisions in the
TMA or any of its regulations that create exemptions to parking
restrictions in TROs for vehicles engaged in camera enforcement."

Please supply written confirmation that the above Adjudicator`s
comment is correct in that there is NO provision in the TMA or any
of its regulations that create exemptions to parking restrictions
in TROs for vehicles engaged in camera enforcement.

Also, please confirm that local authorities cannot use the caveat
of "Exemptions for vehicles used in the service of a local
authority in pursuance of statutory powers or duties provided that
in all the circumstances it is reasonably necessary in the exercise
of such powers or the performance of such duties for the vehicle to
wait in the place in which it is waiting” for the purpose of
allowing these CCTV vehicles to park in contravention themselves.

Yours faithfully,

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Let`s get this matter sorted  :-ev-: :-ev-: :-ev-: :-ev-:
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